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RE: Battlefield: Bad Company

bonobaby — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:42:57 GMT

actually love the sp and don't mind the frantic action at the moment but agree with a lot of what chas has said .
the sp is quality i can see this being the only game that i have finished for years the dialog is funny as hell even the wife laughed but also commented that she now realizes why i don't like these shooters as i keep dieing.

RE: Battlefield: Bad Company

Chas — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:22:57 GMT

lo nick, welcome back, as you can see nothing changes Flan as obnoxious as ever

As for the game, enjoying the SP but as always not sure when I'd get time to play it. Really not sure about the MP, I think it could be a great game but it's spoilt by the implementation.

The lack of control over what server you end up on is a big problem, the lag kinda kills it. You at least should be able to limit searches by country to try and lessen the risk if they're still gonna insist on not allowing private lobbies. As dante said though more people doesn't always make a better game. Like him I'd much prefer to have smaller numbers and it at least be playable rather than large numbers with lag.

The fact that you can create a squad before you go into a game but if you don't have a full compliment of 4 you could end up with some random in the squad and you can't invite other players/friends to your squad once you get in a game, whether they're in the same game or not, which is very clumsy and defeats the point of trying to get a group of friends together (It has to be said Frontlines did this so much simpler and better).

Jury is still out for me though, I will persist at least for the time being until I've got to grips with the game a bit more. It has potential, unfortunately for me it just doesn't quite realise it, although I accept that different people want different things out of a game so some people won't be bothered or as worried about the same things as me. But for me it's always been as much about the people you play with as the game itself. IMO you can have far more fun on a crap game with the right people as a great game in complete silence/lag/trash talking teammates.

Just my own personal opinion of course.

RE: Battlefield: Bad Company

FLAN uk — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:53:38 GMT

hi Nick, long time no see...BF is not a patch on COD4, in my opinion. it realy is too much run and gun, lets get in the tank/helicopter as quick as we can, type of gameplay. plus there is the ever present enemy shows up as red, which i presume is there for the retarded yanks...

RE: Battlefield: Bad Company

nick72 — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:22:06 GMT

hey all,

long time no speak etc...

I got BF:BC and got to say it's good fun. Probably the game the most like BF2 on the PC that I've played on the 360 (although I've not played cod4 yet)

Hopefully see you all on live sometime soon

Nick

RE: Battlefield: Bad Company

Reign-Mack — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:33:26 GMT

BF isnt about stealth? maybe bad company isnt but the real version is, Sniper in a gillie suit prone position? Knife Kills?

I certainly won't be buying this, would rather play Battlefield Two on the PC its been around since 2005 but why settle for its retarded younger brother?

RE: Battlefield: Bad Company

MalevolentGod — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:29:39 GMT

Well, I am loving this demo, as I knew I would.

Yes, there are areas that you cant go into marked in red. But you can do when you blow up the two points, as soon as you do the location they were in becomes your new base and the front line moves forward. The areas surround the map itself are in red because if they werent you would run off into the desert...

BF isnt about stealth, its about wave after wave of soldiers shooting and blowing stuff up. The vehicles usually out balance things, but ive not really experienced it as much as BF2, and especially not as much as Frontlines.

Also, to that extent, if you use team work and gadgets, tanks and helis are just huge targets. Use the tracking gun of the operative and the rocket launcher of the demo guy and watch what happens...

RE: Battlefield: Bad Company

Pa1N — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:47:46 GMT

Whilst I can see this game could be fun with friends. I carnt say I like it to be honest. The controls / weapons feel very strange. The vehicles seem to totally out balance the game ( Which has been my feeling with most of the battlefield games ).

This is a definate ~~MUST~~ NOT BUY for me. Sorry MG . Also I think its not even in the same league as Cod4. But everyones got there own opinion.

I'd be willing to have a blast on the demo sometime with some myxboxer's to see if it could be fun. .

RE: Battlefield: Bad Company

FLAN uk — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 21:22:58 GMT

the maps are on the large size but not as big as they let on, there are areas that are forbidden marked in red, whereby if you stray into them you die...

RE: Battlefield: Bad Company

madmiddle — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 02:10:38 GMT

Downloaded it tonight and had a few hours playing it. (ok the first 30 mins was trying to discover the controls and what the concept of the game was). At first glance it does look nice with the various vehicles (including the helicopter) being a nice touch to the game play.

With the maps being so big i thought it was going to be like that Frontlines MP game demo, which i got tired of walking around not getting anywhere quickly. But this has a nice twist to it with the choice of either respawning in the the starting area to reclaim a new tank, or spawn near your team mates.

I loved the concept of things actually being destroyed makes it more interesting when you lose the sniper points.

At the moment i have still got several shooters to play with and need a bloody good reason to buy this one.

RE: Battlefield: Bad Company

FLAN uk — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:42:03 GMT

one pre-order cancelled, i know it's horses for courses and each man to his own, but in my opinion this game is sh1te, i've tried, the destroyable environment is good but it's not for me, maybe if they could steal it for the next installment of COD, unless its like COD3 which was sh1te as well. i'll stick to COD4 for now, still plenty of playability for me in that...

RE: Battlefield: Bad Company

Smi1ar — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:34:35 GMT

no prone aswell on bfbc and as flan said wots point in stealth if you have a readybrek glow around you for all to see mbe in full game the host can turn that shit off.

RE: Battlefield: Bad Company

Lee Ferino — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 22:27:57 GMT

FLAN uk (05/06/2008)

lets hope EA's servers are robust enough to cope with the demand, otherwise a lot of people will be cancelling their pre-orders.

when's COD5 due out...

Oh dear that says it all EA servers , i think all ea games have trouble with the online side of things

As for COD 5 it around november time so not to long to wait

I tried the demo today just single player and tbh i was not that impressed i thought BF2 on pc looks and plays a lot better but then what do i know , i have just been playing lego indiana jones and i think it is exellent (i also liked the starsky and hutch film)

RE: Battlefield: Bad Company

MalevolentGod — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 21:08:08 GMT

FLAN uk (05/06/2008)

i know where my money will be going. now, when's COD5 due out...

You will hate it, its being made by Treyarch.

Forgot the demo is out today - shall be downloading when I get home and had a few well earned beers and foods!

RE: Battlefield: Bad Company

FLAN uk — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 20:11:50 GMT

to be fair to the game Smilar it played smooth before the general release of the demo today. it's a pretty popular franchise so i imagine a lot of people trying to play it today. i too noticed it was laggy today, virtualy unplayable, lets hope EA's servers are robust enough to cope with the demand, otherwise a lot of people will be cancelling their pre-orders.

on the gameplay side i'm starting to get realy p1$$ed off with the fact that you can't use any stealth what so ever in this game, whats the point of having the "readybreak" glow even when you are hiding behind walls? tanks can see you, snipers can see you, everyone can see you! are Battlefield players realy that bad sighted/dim that they need to be shown where the enemy are? there may as well be no buildings or structures in the game as they are totaly useless. for christ's sake, give gamers some credit and make the game a little more realistic, there is no element of surpise at all when you know where everyone is, as far as i'm concerned this is a major flaw in this franchise and is steering me away from buying this as snipers sit right at the back of the map and can see you from miles away. if it's a choice between destroyable environments or sneaking up on people i know where my money will be going. now, when's COD5 due out...

RE: Battlefield: Bad Company

Smi1ar — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:48:14 GMT

great demo till u play online fekin laggy crap cancelled me preorder till i see a smooth running finished product was unplayable online tbh

RE: Battlefield: Bad Company

MalevolentGod — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 21:02:41 GMT

I knew that the buildings and cars can all be destroyed in real time, rather than specific destructive patterns, and with the trees, but if the ground can be too, then that could be interesting when someone tries to run over you in a jeep

Not sure the ranking up in demo through to full game is entirely wise, but we will see.

And odd you should use the word "prophetic" to describe something me...I mean, with the hair and beard I could almost be Jesus' better looking, 2000 year younger brother.

RE: Battlefield: Bad Company

FLAN uk — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:03:26 GMT

what SJ? you mean you don't trust my esteemed colleagues review of a demo he hasn't played? shame on you!

yes, it is confirmed that any rankings/unlocks gained on the demo will be carried over to the full game, it says so in the demo.

the demo is on general release on the marketplace tomorrow the 5th.

and yes MG, it does have destructable environments, as i said so in my mini review, so therefore, by your prophetic musings, it IS one million times better than COD4...

RE: Battlefield: Bad Company

SJ — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:10:09 GMT

Much as I rely on the informed and eloquent opinions of the members on the forum, has anyone seen any reviews of this game written by professional game critics? All seems very quiet which is usually worrying.

RE: Battlefield: Bad Company

Smi1ar — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 13:27:40 GMT

just preorderd bf badcompany from play.com hope i get a code to dl demo

RE: Battlefield: Bad Company

MalevolentGod — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 12:29:17 GMT

[quote]blibby (04/06/2008)

[quote]MalevolentGod (03/06/2008)

Personally, if people are willing to keep playing the same game for going on a year, more fool them....[/quote}]

i think you have just upset over 8 million World of Warcraft players fella [/quote]

Oh noes, wouldnt want to do that, they may PK me!
Anyone who plays WOW in the first place needs their head checking. Fact.

Yes, I had SvR, it was a change, something different and its been traded in. *shrugs*
Id rather play something different every now and again rather than just shooters (although it is my fave genre).

And Flan, I qualified the sentance with 'if' IF its BF2 with destructable environements, its a million times better than COD4.

Anyway, if you want to continue playing COD4 - good for you, must have gone and done the same earn everything, give it up for a small picture next to your name, re-earn everything give it up cycle about 10 times now? Nothing says fun than repetition. Or is that brain washing....who knows.

At least youre getting your money out of it, i had a good six or 7 months (excluding the beta) out of it before I got bored of it and went on to something else.

But I guess thats just my throw away MTV mentality....unlike what has happened with that main stay of gaming, GTA4

And is it confirmed that ranking up on the demo will carry over to main game? As that was being banged about about COD4 and turned out not to be true, which I was pleased with as those who did manage to get onto the beta had a huge advantage over everyone else...

RE: Battlefield: Bad Company

Reign-Mack — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 12:20:25 GMT

Warcraft players should be upset ...they should be maad as hell ...because they are warcraft players. Who would want to be one of those.

RE: Battlefield: Bad Company

blibby — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 09:22:06 GMT

[quote]MalevolentGod (03/06/2008)

Personally, if people are willing to keep playing the same game for going on a year, more fool them....[/quote}]

i think you have just upset over 8 million World of Warcraft players fella

RE: Battlefield: Bad Company

Reign-Mack — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 05:38:32 GMT

Have been playing the Beta for this for a while now, have always hated the console versions of Battle Field because they have been completly shit compared to the pc versions but I think this one has been a step in the right direction. I'd never compare this game to the likes of graw, rb6 or call of crap, the maps on battle field and f@cking huge it feels a lot more like you are taking part in a war the other have never managed to achieve that.

I still play the first ghost recon every now and then (and I know somebody else on this forum those two cant rememebr who though) but his has nothing to do with sell by dates the later versions are all inferior...

RE: Battlefield: Bad Company

FLAN uk — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 00:21:18 GMT

thursday 5th june general release, those playing it now(my smug self included)pre ordered it with Play.com. in the words of MG "its a million times better than COD4", so it must be good, and he hasn't even played it yet.

from what i can remember there are no whips in it, but i'm sure a patch is coming...

RE: Battlefield: Bad Company

Lee Ferino — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:47:07 GMT

Anyone know when you can download the demo as i wouldn't mind giving it a go.

Atm im am just playing rockband which imo dosn't look as good as COD 4 but Lego Indiana Jones is out this week which does have the use of a whip which is the one thing missing from COD 4 so who knows maybe a COD 4 beater could be on the way

RE: Battlefield: Bad Company

r0wie — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:41:06 GMT

MalevolentGod (03/06/2008)

Personally, if people are willing to keep playing the same game for going on a year, more fool them.

Erm.... i played Quake2 & Quake3 for about 5 years none stop and never was a dull moment of excitement and/or dejection.... the problem these days is with you MTV throw-away kids mentality tbfh!

RE: Battlefield: Bad Company

FLAN uk — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:35:11 GMT

this from the man who plays Smackdown V Raw, hmmm. you win MG, i and hundreds and thousands of others are wrong. i am truly humbled in your presence.

the case is closed, my opinion matters not a jot, MG has spoken...

RE: Battlefield: Bad Company

Chas — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:31:29 GMT

MalevolentGod (03/06/2008)

Enemies appear as red on your screen when you have seen them for more than a couple of seconds, which is (uh oh) is on GRAW.

only if you play it in girly mode, which I suppose you might have done as you have girly hair but the rest of us played it hardcore - they do still light up the map after a few seconds in line of sight, but you don't get the big red "i'm over here, shoot me because you're obviously too thick to try and work it out for yourself" target that appeared round the actual enemy and if this has got it and can't be switched off I have my doubts about getting it, I don't need to be treated like an idiot, I have more than enough friends and family that do that anyway .

RE: Battlefield: Bad Company

MalevolentGod — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:11:26 GMT

[quote]FLAN uk (03/06/2008)

lets face it MG, COD4 is the benchmark shooter, it has stood the test of time and still being played by almost all on my friends list, the new maps were very good, the one average one being Killhouse, which correct me if i'm wrong, is a rehash of an old R6 map, odd that. can't see that many on my friends list playing R6V or GRAW, the statistics don't lie. but it's all a matter of opinion of course, and mine is that Battlefield Bad Company is inferior in many aspects to either COD4 or GRAW...[/quote]

Youre wrong.

Its just got the same name as a map, which is a military term for a training house for CQC. I cant see one company remaking a map from another, can you?

Personally, if people are willing to keep playing the same game for going on a year, more fool them. Ive got better things to do and better games to play. COD4 was good once, but now I dont fancy playing the run and gun, throw grenade at certain part of sky games, where you shouldnt shoot for fear of your position being perminantly on a small map.

Will be getting BF regardless of what the community is doing as I loved BF2 and if its more of the same but you can destroy everything, that makes it a million times better than COD.

RE: Battlefield: Bad Company

Pa1N — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 21:49:19 GMT

It sounds quite good fun , quite a nice touch carrying youre ranking over to the full game. Hopefully i'll be able to try the demo out with some myxboxers online to get a feel for it. Thats if you can host youre own games in the demo??

RE: Battlefield: Bad Company

FLAN uk — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 21:29:27 GMT

a nice feature of the demo is that any ranking up you do will be taken into the full game, so you will keep any weapons you have unlocked. gives you an incentive to play it.

RE: Battlefield: Bad Company

MalevolentGod — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 12:50:41 GMT

Enemies appear as red on your screen when you have seen them for more than a couple of seconds, which is (uh oh) is on GRAW.

BF2 was absolutly fantastic and was my first Xbox Live game, so I have fond memories and it cant be beaten for the domination games. The only downside is the helicopter races - where everyone tries to go for it, doesnt use it properly or one team manages to steal the others as well as use their own, so its one sided. It was worse in Frontlines, but the spawning system in BF2 was better and hopefully will be better still in Bad Company.

Ive been waiting for this game for ages, so hopefully the demo will confirm that ive been waiting for something good.

I also wish that people would get over COD because it was good, and I really enjoyed playing it, but come on...its far past its use by date. The games arent different, and you know pretty much exactly how every game will play out, the new maps that would breathe new life into the game were a total dissapointment.

Of course though, im sure that it will be compared to every shooter from now until forever, the further on in time it goes the more rose tinted the glasses become.

RE: Battlefield: Bad Company

FLAN uk — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 12:18:10 GMT

ok, lets get it out of the way, this is NO COD4 beater/rival, it's a totaly different sort of shooter. if your into realism then do not read on. lets face it, GRAW is the connosieurs choice when it comes to putting a cap in someones ass, followed closely by COD4, if you want it a bit more frenetic, but the Battlefield series is very in your face.

i played the single player demo and it has all the usual objective scenarios to complete if you want to finish the mission. you can get into and drive any vehicle/helicopter you come across, and you can switch positions in the said vehicles to either drive, be a passenger or mount the guns. you can destroy absolutely everything, buildings, vehicles even the ground can be deformed, leaving huge craters to hide in. there's no more hiding behind walls or sandbags, they can be blown up as well, leaving a unique battlefield every time you play.

on line it supports 20 players, everything you can do in single player is copied in the multiplayer element, all vehicles and buildings/structures are destroyable, hell, you can even chop down trees with your M16 if you want! theres something quite satisfying levelling some palm trees with your favoured machine gun. the action is very hectic, as you can imagine with 20 players in the mix. there is only one game type in the demo which is one side attack while the other side have to defend gold crates. when you die you can either spawn at your spawn point, close to vehicles, half way down the map, or, if your squad has advanced enough, with your squad, putting you right in the thick of the action. your team gets randomly broken up into smaller squads, so if you do choose to spawn with them you dont get everyone spawning en-masse in the same place.

theres plenty of weapons to choose from, but you are limited as to which you can choose until you unlock them by levelling up, which is similar to the COD4 method, the more kills/headshots/vehicles/bases you get, the higher your rank.

it's very confusing when you first join the action because it is so fast paced and you havn't got a clue what to do, but you soon get the hang of where to go on the quite large maps. detail is very good, the smoke effects are quite impressive as is the lighting. the destroyable buildings and environment certainly adds to the game.

it doesn't run anywhere near as smooth as COD4, the animation seems to be a little jerky, the charachters are nicely rendered, as are the buildings and vehicles, but it just doesn't feel as fluid as the aforementioned COD4.

first impressions are that if you liked the previous Battlefield games then you will love this, the minor gripe for me still remains in the series, that your enemies show up as red on the screen, not just on the radar, so you know exactly where they are which makes it all too easy to spot them and for them to spot you, there seems no point in hiding or sniping, as you can be seen. i can't see the point in that, or if it can be toggled off by the host. i'm not sure if the destroyable environment is enough to make me buy this as the action is very fast paced, theres no stealthin it at all, it's deffinitely a more arcade style game than COD4 or GRAW...

Battlefield: Bad Company

FLAN uk — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:45:10 GMT

i saw this too late to post last night but Play.com were giving away a code to download the Battlefield: Bad Company demo today, before general release on thursday, if you pre-ordered the game. got my code today and downloded it, i'll let you know what i think later.

i wasn't interested in this but after seeing some videos on the destructability of everything in the game i became intrigued. if they can pull it off as the videos say this could breath new life into the shooter gendre. i just hope they don't make it too light hearted, as the trailer suggests...